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Unreal Modder's Haven => News and Announcements => Topic started by: Sandcrawler on January 13, 2012, 06:15:56 PM

Title: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: Sandcrawler on January 13, 2012, 06:15:56 PM
This website, and All Around Games ( will be participating in the SOPA Blackout on January 18th.

On the 18th you will be unable to reach this website, instead you will be redirected to a website containing information about how you can help stop SOPA.

If SOPA passes this website will undoubtedly be taken down, due to the very nature of the names, and the images on the website.  Forums will also disappear at a rapid pace if SOPA is passed, SOPA makes the owner of the website responsible for all content on the website, including forum posts. Meaning if someone even post an image of Spiderman on the forums, or uses it in a signature the website would not only be blocked, but I could be charged.

SOPA present a big problem for the Sandcrawler Network websites, because there is a lot of information that is user uploaded. So help stop it if you want this website to continue.

PS: PIPA is almost the same as SOPA, and also has to be stopped.

PSS. I don't normally get involved in politics, but this effect the internet, something that we should all care greatly about.

More and better information:
Title: Re: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: frazscotland on January 15, 2012, 11:42:55 AM
This sounds terrible sandcrawler. Often i notice this restrictive conservative attitude in american society "land of the free" apparently. This is just advariance to that concept. Looks to me like " the man" has already decided on this and its just going thru the machinations for show now,like most american politics ,just to make you hope . Transfer sandcrawler to a euro forum where truly it is more ,in reality the " land of free"..
Title: Re: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: Dark Lord on January 15, 2012, 11:57:51 AM
no way man, i always hoped it would be the government that would put an end to my modding...

i doubt transferring to a euro server would work either, our government is turning very socialist these days and the fact that we are amerians would get us in trouble i'm sure
Title: Re: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: frazscotland on January 15, 2012, 07:42:41 PM
I think its big bizness not govt really in this case thats pulling the strings from behind the scenes. :'(
euro is already more socialist than you imagine and we dont have these kind of restrictive practises in place in fact we have freedom of information. Illegal and legal hehe  8)
It would be a shame to see this happen. Usa just seems in recent years to be getiing worse for ppls personal freedoms like big brother in disguise as more and more your personal liberties are eroded . It will get worse as far as i can see... :'(
PS HOW do you know transferring the sandcrawler forum to a euro server would be worse or the same than what seems to be in progress in usa. i very much think it would be better,,
It is an option to be considered.. why go down on the ship for pride and drown.. :)
Title: Re: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: Dark Lord on January 15, 2012, 08:00:19 PM
not pride, it's just im saying that, even with it being on a euro server, i doubt we as americans could get away with it. if we were from europe then we probably could

things have been getting worse, both liberal and conservative...i want nothing more than to vote out every single person currently in politics and put some new people in there. corruption affects them all, and it's a bad idea to let our senators stay in there for life, but that's all i'll say about that right now lol
Title: Re: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: Sandcrawler on January 16, 2012, 01:36:47 PM
To reply to a few things:

- First SOPA, and PIPA have been spearheaded by the MPAA and RIAA, with backing from huge companies like Sony, and Viacom. The justification for the bill is that internet piracy is cost the music, and movie industries jobs. The reality of that is that music and movies are shrinking because there are other forums of entertainment, that is more affordable (Video games).

- I will be transferring the site elsewhere if SOPA or PIPA pass. But someone else will have to host and run it. Once the website was blocked, no-one in the US would be able to access it, but it would still be hosted in the EU. If my name was still listed for the hosting, they could still come after me.

Now for some good news
-SOPA is being shelved (if there is no consensus it will be shelved), after they have seen response to the bills from the internet communities.  As well as politicians that are opposed to the bill.

- That leaves PIPA, the bill that has been in the background so far. Now its really time to go after PIPA and stop that bill (it was on a  fast track to be passed priory to the winter break)

- The white house has spoken out against SOPA, and indirectly PIPA.

My websites will still blackout on the 18th, and be redirect to a page about the bills.

I am also working on a small game in protest of SOPA, PIPA, and DNS blocking as a whole. It will be released on the 18th (more likely the 19th due to the blackout) I'll be posting more on that soon (on the All Around Games website)
Title: Re: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: frazscotland on January 17, 2012, 08:36:59 AM
Its so sad to see these changes SANDCRAWLER its jackboot fascism in full gear ! And from the place i would least expect this !!!! Maybe you can still have control over your forum thru VPN . Talk to vash on tx maybe he can help. You and arramus and the other guys tutorials on maps etc have been invaluable to so so many ppl and the hosting of maps also.. Once again "the man" is slowly crushing resistance from grassroots level in a petty way, Where will this end ? the mention of "spiderman" in a forum having to be marked  "TM" ?? and u having to be levied for someone elses erroneous comment ??
Sounds berzerk.. :'(
Title: Re: Help Stop SOPA
Post by: Sandcrawler on January 18, 2012, 05:15:29 PM
We are back up a few hours early, so I can release my sopajam game.

I just hope that with all the websites down in protest today then maybe they will decide its not worth supporting the acts.